Al, all these other hobbies have seen explosions in value while posters stand alone in static values. the only hobbies I can think of that are doing worse than posters in this manner are stamps and Beanie Babies. ________________________________ From: Alan Heimann <alanheim...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 4:52 PM To: sales comic-art.com <sa...@comic-art.com> Cc: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu <MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees
I think what Helmut is alluding to is what Grey calls an auction anomaly ..ie. A bidding war which may take a poster way beyond its performance in a number of past auctions ..obviously these are the exceptions not the rules ..dealers should always be concerned with valuations with expectations for a profit ..while you could compare posters to items you mentioned ..I need a car I need a loaf of Bread etc I don’t need a poster…Seems there is always something new down the line ..while posters maybe stagnating original artwork seems to have found an audience ..comic book cover art , concept art for movies ,Mondo etc I’ve never followed props per se so can’t comment.. On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:03 PM sales comic-art.com<http://comic-art.com> <sa...@comic-art.com<mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>> wrote: Helmut, not sure why you call them 'freaks' the poster hobby was once thriving and increasing in value & new collectors. none of that is true today. values have been static for 99% of the hobby, or going negative. a poster that sold for $5000 in 2010 and still sells for $5000 today is a serious loss of money, not just in investment dollars but in real value on the inflationary scale. That 5k only has half or less of it's buying power now. I don't know about you, but that's not where I want to be with my money. a car costs 2-4x as much as they did in 2010. a house costs 3-10x a loaf of bread is 3x a poster is the same or less. that's just brutalizing your money Rich ________________________________ From: texasmu...@web.de<mailto:texasmu...@web.de> <texasmu...@web.de<mailto:texasmu...@web.de>> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 9:06 AM To: sales comic-art.com<http://comic-art.com> <sa...@comic-art.com<mailto:sa...@comic-art.com>>; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> Subject: Aw: Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees Rich, every major auctions tends to have it's number of 'freaks', posters that sell way above their market value. Problem is, with the massive fees you actually NEED at least a couple of those to make it worth your while. It's been a long time since I have been selling at auction, but looking back, I mostly had mixed results. One example: I sold several copies of the large Italian LA DOLCE VITA dancer style over the years directly. Heritage has auctioned this for around $48,000 once, which (give or take) should've left about $30,000 in the consignor's pocket. I sold a couple of top condition ones directly in the same ballpark. On the other end, they also auctioned this poster for about $18,000, so the consignor probably got about $12,000. I got a good deal more than that for the worst condition copy I ever had. I still have one in stock, and since I'm in no desperate need for money right now, I prefer to keep it around for at least another while. That said, I have recently sent a number of super-rare but also super-obscure early posters to Bruce, but this is all material that needs a huge audience. As always, some will fail, some should do great and in the end I'm sure it will be worth the effort. Just my two cents. Helmut Here's what I say about Heritage: when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better than what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house in the USA - then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me. There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten $12,000.00 for a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and the proof is the $106 that one auctioneer got for the same poster 3 weeks later. Considering I had it for sale for $2000, I don't care if HA took 1/3 of the result. HA under Grey's tenure also got me $1680 for a Pulp Fiction regular style one sheet, $600 for a 1989 Batman one sheet or a variety of other incredible results since I started consigning material to them. Recently they even got $10,000 for a Star Wars one sheet I sent in. When other sellers can match these results, I think they have a box to stand on and chirp. Until then, they're blowing farts in the wind ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
