Quoting Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Platt,
>
> Platt, your conversation with Ian below, states
> we abandon intellect?
Where do you get the idea that I favor abandoning intellect? It's SOM intellect
attempting to guide society that Pirsig says is flawed. Don't you agree?
> Well, why don't you just come
> out and tell us you don't think about anything you
> discuss with us.
You may not agree with what I think, but does that mean I don't think?
> Am I to incline myself to believe
> you don't think about what you say?
What you are inclined to believe is a question no one but you can answer.
> Are you a social
> robot taking orders from others?
I don't know. What is a social robot?
> Come on, the
> intellect is more creative than that.
What do you mean by intellect? What do you mean by creative?
Platt
> > > Platt this is where your twisted rhetoric really
> > grates ...
> > >
> > > The quoted paragraph is about the then current
> > perceived state of
> > > intellect as "science the appointed intellectual
> > pattern" - not all
> > > possible intellects for ever.
> >
> > So you claim intellect has changed in the short time
> > Pirsig wrote those words?
> > How would you convince him?
> >
> > > I think we've all agreed GOF "science" is not the
> > whole intellectual
> > > story. Scientific empiricism does indeed not "see"
> > morals, but science
> > > / intellect is more than the basic empiricism of
> > science --- look at
> > > the threads where we've been discussing exactly
> > this.
> >
> > Please specify the threads where Pirsig's view that
> > the scientific worldview
> > dominates intellect is argued against.
> >
> > > To summarise DMB - a flaw in one intellectual
> > pattern is no reason to
> > > abandon intellect entirely (and this is not a new
> > complaint against
> > > your stance).
> >
> > What other intellectual pattern would you suggest is
> > NOT similarly flawed.
> >
> > Platt
> >
> > P.S. Thanks for the gratuitous insult about "twisted
> > rhetoric."
> >
> >
> >
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