Thanks for the response DMB,

I can recommend the Granger work from my own positive experience and
review. I'd be interested in your more analytical take.

The irony remark was only "mildly interesting" and only paradoxical if
one ignores the timing difference involved - the dangers of national
generalizations I guess. Must read Hildebrand - been on my list for a
while.

Thanks
Ian

On 8/19/07, david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ian glendinning asked:
> Do you see the Granger (Dewey & Pirsig ....) book as part of that US
> Pragamatist mainstream ?
>
> dmb says:
> I wouldn't know. Arlo is probably the guy to ask. I think his posts are my
> only encounter with Granger. Given that the title includes the names of two
> of my favorite pragmatist, my guess would be yes.
>
> ian asked:
> There is a certain irony in Pirsig's recent remark about the relative
> qualities of British and American philosopical thought, no?
>
> dmb says:
> Irony? If you're saying that it is an interesting contradiction, I'd
> disagree on both counts. The classic american pragmatists were working a
> hundred years ago and can't really be compared to today's British
> philosophers. I don't know if its fair to say that the american scene has
> declined since the days of Dewey and James or how much agreement there is
> about the case David Hildebrand makes, but his book BEYOND REALISM AND
> ANTI-REALISM: John Dewey and the Neopragmatists basically says that today's
> leading lights, namely Hilary Putnam and Richard Rorty, were engaged in a
> debate that the classical pragmatists would not have entertained. Hildebrand
> says these contemporary neopragmatists are kicking dead horses, so to speak.
>
> Plus, when one is talking to the British press its only smart to flatter the
> Brits. Or maybe the comment was a thinly veiled compliment to Anthony
> McWatt, who has got to be one of Pirsig's favorite Brits.
>
> I wonder if national pride motives your question. I mean, generally the
> philosophical world is divided between Anglo-Americans and everybody else.
> There are plenty of exceptions, but we english-speaking people are mostly on
> the same team. And then when one considers the East/West fusion of the
> system this particular discussion group has going, the question seems even
> less important.
>
> Let's just agree to hate the French, okay?
>
> Just kidding.
>
> But the Germans really do suck and this time I mean it.
>
> Just kidding.
>
> Its the Canadians you really gotta watch. I've got my eye on you, Rebbeca.
>
> Thanks,
> dmb
>
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