SA,

At 12:33 PM 10/29/2007, you wrote:
> > >      [Marsha Previously]
> > > > And not immediate enough at others.
>
>
>     [SA previously]
> > >     Maybe art, any art, as you mention at times,
> > >becomes too static, too intellectual from one time
> > to another.  But too static might be less dynamic,
>yet
> > >still not stuck.  Too static would be another way
> > to say a static pattern.  Sure these words are
> > tip-toeing
> > >around and what I'm saying can be put another way.
> > I give it try.  What I'm saying is direct experience
> > of any art will flow, be dynamic and then become
> > static to our current direct experience.  When I
>write,
> > and rewrite, then type it on the computer to redraft
>it
> > >again, to further clarify, and reclarify, what
> > becomes dynamic is that first rough draft, but I
>still
> > don't want to lose understanding so others might be
>able
> > to know what I'm saying.  That doesn't have to be
>the
> > >only goal.  Private works can mean much for me, and
> > >nothing to other people.  "So what's this have to
> > do with immediate experience?" I ask myself.  I
>guess
> > it depends on what stage in the process I'm in.
>
>
>      [Marsha]
> > Your last sentence has brought questions.  What is
> > this 'it'?
>
>      Experience
>
>      [Marsha]
> > What is this 'stage'?
>
>
>     A static pattern along a undefined continuum.

Huh?  Is a stage a linear progression?


>      [Marsha]
> > What is this 'depends'?
>
>    I don't know, which is where you see yourself.

Self?


>      [Marsha]
> > Towards what end?
>
>     What immediate experience might one be having?  Is
>it intellectual?  Social?  More dynamic than these
>singled out static patterns, a combination, or yet
>something not so defined.

I've never claimed to make art.  I just paint.  Are there answers to 
these questions?   Should I worry about them?

>      [Marsha]
> > The symbol of the Tao comes naturally to mind.  I
> > wonder what it
> > looks like when it is spinning.  Does it have a
> > beginning or end?  Or
> > is there only process?   And isn't desire a part of
> > process?
>
>     Yes, desire, but desire of what?  What has been
>included in this desiring process?

To me, desire is the fire that spins that yin-yang symbol.  What is 
it that puts you in the woods?  Or a canoe?    Without desire one is 
either depressed or dead?  Desire is great!   Attachment not so 
great, but desire is wunderbar.

What do you think about desire?  What do think desire is in the 
MOQ?  Is desire the root of all evil?

You said something in your last post, but I still understand what you 
were suggesting.


Marsha






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