Hey Margaret,

I'm so refreshed that via the MOQ I've found some others who dig Beefheart -
I'm a big fan and have spent thousands of hours listening to his music since
I first bought one of his albums about 5 years ago.

He is very much an acquired taste in my opinion; it was only because the UK
DJ John Peel was such a fan of his that I persevered with 'Trout Mask
Replica' and even then I had to listen to that about a dozen times before I
could bear more than the first few tracks.

Kind regards

-Peter

On 16/11/2007, Margaret Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Everything's wrong, at the same time it's right
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Peter Corteen
> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 4:40 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Tao through intellect...
> >
> >
> > Like two flamingoes in fruit fight.
> >
> > On 15/11/2007, Margaret Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tropical Hot Dog Night
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter
> > > > Corteen
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:17 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] Tao through intellect...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 'If you want to be a different kind of fish, you've got
> > to get out
> > > > of the school' (Don van Vleit).
> > > >
> > > > On 15/11/2007, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Scholars, drunk on words and obscure meanings,
> > > > > Weave a tangled web of concordances.
> > > > > Simple practice never occurs to them.
> > > > > Give up education, and the world will be better.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are many who seek Tao through intellect.  They revel in
> > > > > thousands of coincidences, seek similarities in all the world's
> > > > > religions, conduct learned discourses for enthralled
> > > > audiences.  But
> > > > > they would reach the truth faster if they tied their
> > thoughts to
> > > > > experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > The intellect is inherently dualistic.  It makes
> > distinctions and
> > > > > creates new connections between concepts and calls that
> > "meaning."
> > > > > This type of analytical thinking is extremely limited in
> > > > the face of
> > > > > Tao, which is not fully rational, nor fully quantitative, not
> > > > > fully describable.  Though most followers of Tao are
> > learned, they
> > > > > also realize that the intellect is but one aspect in
> > what must be
> > > > > a multifaceted approach to Tao.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is said one must give up education, not because we
> > > > should be dumb,
> > > > > but because we must seek a level on consciousness beyond the
> > > > > intellect.  We must study, but not to the point that
> > emphasis on
> > > > > experience and meditation is lost.  If we can combine the
> > > > > intellect and direct experience with out meditative mid, then
> > > > > there
> > > > will be no
> > > > > barrier to the wordless perception of reality.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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