Hi Steve
26 Dec. you wrote:
> Bo agreed:
> > Agree, this is the way most people of this discussion regards the
> > intellectual level. For me it is the ability to distinguish between
> > what's subjective and what's objective .. which BTW is how my
> > dictionary defines "intellect".
> Steve:
> I can't find a dictionary that says anything like that. Can you
> provide a direct quote? Pirsig does want to use regular dictionary
> definitions for terms, so If you can provide such a quote it would be
> helpful to your cause.
Steve you are an "oldie" around this place and must remember
my countless references to the "Oxford Advanced" (Eighteenth
impression 1985) ISBN 0 194311066 6) that says:
"Power of the mind to reason, contrasted with feeling and
instinct."
"Power of the mind" we may disregard for what is not power of
mind? (I'll rather say power of intelligence) REASON is the arch-
objective feature and FEELING the arch-subjective ditto. So the
power/ability to distinguish between the two looks very much how
the said dictionary defines "intellect".
I know that other dictionaries defines "intellect" less SOL-like and
more SOM-like; the ability to think, as MIND for short.
> Bo:
> > ..most people at this discussion are
> > somists in spite of using MOQ terminology
> Steve:
> What do you mean by somists? Am I one?
Well, like I say, they talk a lot about Quality, mostly the dynamic
kind - which sounds like a state of being. They also present the
(static) intellectual level as dynamic, as some empty vessel that
was filled by a bad pattern called SOM and under its yoke for
millenniums, but - now - may be have the MOQ as its top
content, ignoring the fact that this violates the MOQ. There are
no "bad" patterns inside any level, it's from the higher level the
good/bad comes in. Treating the MOQ as an intellectual pattern
that remains comfortably within intellect makes for a somist.
If you, Steve, are a somist? Not when you ask such relevant
questions as these, and you show openness regarding the SOL.
You must have some antenna that picks up quality. I know I
sound like a madman acting like this - year after year - but the
MOQ hit me - in the SOL way - and I can't let it fall back into
SOM.
IMO
Bo
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