I think I've posted this before but I've been recycled a lot lately so
wtf...

The Agnostic Hindu Blues

Maya, Lordy how you glow.
Maya, Lordy how you glow.
But like a firefly a flickerin',
You're so hard to get to know.

Maya, I'd like to put you in a jar.
Maya, I'd like to put you in a jar.
Tie you up in ribbons,
Show my friends how bright you are.

But Maya, it's so hard to get to you.
Maya, it's so hard to get to you.
You just flutter off to nowhere,
Go on doin' like you do.

Maya, you leave me with no clues.
Oh Maya I don't have the slightest clue.
I just standing in the garden
Netting Agnostic Hindu Blues.

Case

-----Original Message-----
From: MarshaV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MD] Mind-body practice

At 01:46 AM 12/30/2007, you wrote:

>Hello everyone
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:02:53 -0500
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Mind-body practice
> >
> > At 01:58 PM 12/26/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >>Hello everyone
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 02:29:31 -0500
> >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Subject: Re: [MD] Mind-body practice
> >>>
> >>> At 06:36 AM 12/25/2007, Krimel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>[Krimel]
> >>>>I engage in a daily practice of reading, listening, study, meditation,
> >>>>discussion and writing on concepts that make-up the associationistic
> >>>>patterns of my thoughts. I probe these patterns for error and 
> look for new
> >>>>concepts and new ways to incorporate new concepts into this
> >> network of ideas
> >>>>and associations.
> >>>>
> >>>>I rejoice in the mystical sensations of new ideas shaking the network
and
> >>>>creating Gestalt shifts in my perception. I am rewarded when new
thoughts
> >>>>and associations occur to me and when new fractal patterns 
> emerge from the
> >>>>effort. I observe the illusions of the moment in light of the 
> illusions of
> >>>>the past and wait in awe for the shifting illusions of the future.
> >>>>
> >>>>I expand my consciousness (whatever that is) by bringing in new ideas
and
> >>>>testing old ones. I reflect on film, art, music and new 
> narrative concepts
> >>>>that employ fiction to augment facets in the structure of my thoughts.
> >>>>
> >>>>I seek harmony in the thoughts of others and marvel at the 
> infinite variety
> >>>>of perception and processing available to the human spirit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Greetings,
> >>>
> >>> I've been thinking about what Krimel wrote here. I like to play this
> >>> game. I thought this description really quite beautiful. It can't
> >>> be taken seriously though, it is play, it is Lila. But this game
> >>> also seems contrary to all the literature on the Tao, Buddhism,
> >>> etc. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seems silly. How can
> >>> anything be excluded?
> >>>
> >>> Anybody have any thoughts?
> >>
> >>Hi Marsha
> >>
> >>I agree it's intellectually appealing to learn new ideas and to fill
> >>our days chasing empty concepts. I think the MOQ says that that
> >>takes us away from Dynamic Quality, however. It doesn't bring us
> >>closer. Perhaps that is what the literature on the Tao and Buddhism
> >>is telling you.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Dan
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > Perhaps if this is what one did all day long, every day. Or if one
> > mistook their thoughts and ideas for the truth.
> >But what if you think like Tim Robbins, "I believe in nothing, 
> everything is sacred,
> > I believe in everything, nothing is sacred." Then isn't thinking,
> > with nonattachment, the same as a cloud, or tree, or flowing
> > river?
> >This is a serious question. It's hard for me to believe
> > that this particular aspect of nature should be negated. Isn't it
> > attachment that causes suffering and illusion?
>
>Hi Marsha
>
>I've heard it said that ignorance of the nature of all living beings 
>as well as the nature of inanimate things gives rise to suffering. 
>This ignorance is the notion that all exists in and of itself, 
>separate and apart from all else. Is that what you mean by attachment?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Dan

Greetings,

No, that's not exactly what I mean, but that would also seem to cause 
suffering.  I was considering more the transitory nature of 
experience.  More like trying to capture a river using a bucket. Or 
capturing a cloud in a jar. Or capturing rain using a bottle.  Or 
thinking memory has captured experience.

Interesting that the painting I'm working with is needing a broken 
arrow and a bottle of rain.  Trying to imagine what kind of bottle 
this man would use to bring rain has got me baffled.  A Budweiser 
bottle just doesn't seem right.

Marsha






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