Er excuse me Peter, who mentioned "drunkard" .... please read the thread before falling for Platt's filthy rhetoric.
My goodwill ? ... goes a long way Peter ... but has limits based on existing practical responsibilities (to a nuclear and extended family basically) ... but those evolve over time. I was trying to illustrate that these things have practical limits - I'm no different. Anyone who says either "all care should be free (and I'm prepared to fund it with my and my society's money and time)" or "I wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone in need" is an idiot. I provided a set of questions - simple, specific, practical (no philsophising required, unless asked to justify afterwards) - with varying degrees of input from the helper side, depending on the needy person's actual circumstance. Platt ignored them all as usual. BTW Simply "quitting the day job" to help ... is rarely the best option if you weigh it up. Without "earning" your own resources, you have little help to give, except handwringing and cold-comfort. Everyone needs to decide what their best contribution is. (I could send you a personal offline note on my own "career" plans .... if you are genuienly interested .... they're not "secret" but it's not appropriate for public debate.) Ian On 1/4/08, Peter Corteen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I too have to say like Platt that if I saw a vomiting drunkard I'd walk on > by. > On the other hand there have been situations where I have stopped to help > also. > One criterion is probability of danger to myself in getting involved. > > For all our philosophising, habit and preoccupation usually determine our > reactions in these kinds of situations; how we would have liked to behave > and how we did behave are often different. > > But Ian, how far does your goodwill go? Why not quite your desk job and work > for the social security? > > -Peter > > On 04/01/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > A problem of my own making ? > > > > > > If you'd read the scenarios, answered any of my questions ... oh - why > > bother. > > > That's enough fun for one year. > > > > > > You "win" by attrition and ignorance again. > > > Ian > > > > Yes, personal attack is your forte, diverting attention from a discussion > > of the MOQ moral framework. > > > > > On Jan 3, 2008 11:41 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > I die, tell me something I don't know - that and taxes. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, at last a straight answer, Platt, though not to any of my > > questions. > > > > > OK ... so irrespective of all context / scenarios possible ... I did > > > > > suggest quite a few ... you would leave me to die. > > > > > > > > > > Interesting to say the least. > > > > > > > > > > Would you care to answer any of my questions now ... just to test > > the > > > > > actual limits to your (im)morality. > > > > > > > > Under what MOQ moral principle am I obligated to lift a finger to > > rescue you > > > > from a problem of your own making? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
