[Margaret]
> from my point of view (my perception) - there are
many
> statements that Marsha makes 
> (i.e. the one about 'am I fluttering my eyelashes
> enough?') that sound personal and bitter; as if
there is this group
> of men out here not listening to her because she's a
woman and 
> she's not 'behaving' properly. 

     [SA currently]
     Yes, I've seen this from Marsha at times too. 
For example, the recent posting were Marsha questioned
my reading material.  Where she thought since I didn't
go and get a book by a female right away, and read it,
it was due to me not liking woman.  I have other
reading materials lined up right now.  I don't read
all the time, and my posts have gone down here on the
moq for I don't like getting wrapped up in thinking
all the time while I sit still on this chair.  I
guess, I didn't see were you guys were coming from,
especially since I was trying to give Marsha the
benefit of the doubt when she had that message "To SA"
and how her bringing up female and people were jumping
down her throat for it.  I was thinking it was an
innocent question that she would like to explore, and
explore we are!


[Margaret]
> So Laotzu is addressing a group
> of men and telling them to "be humble, to be empty,
> to be low, to allow the
> subtle, 
> invisible," and Marsha thinks it would be ridiculous
> to have him
> address a group of women in this way. 
> I am like Ron - why would it be ridiculous? Because
> women already have
> these qualities? If that is what you think - I
> disagree. I've known some
> women who are much more calulating, manipulative,
> vain and ignorant
> of subtleties than men I know. I think women and men
> both benefit from
> this advice - it's universal. 


     [SA currently]
     Everybody knows I've met some very mean spirited
females.

     [Margaret] 
> I too, like Ron, feel that there are yin energies in
> men, yang energies
> in women - they flow back and forth. I believe we
> all have some genderless
> characteristics and yet we are not going to ever
> going to not have the
> biological characteristics of having two basic
> genders (transsexuals,
> homosexuals
> and other variants not withstanding).


     [SA currently]
     Easy enough.


 
thanks.

icy blue,
SA


      
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