All these facts actually provide a very coherent and cohesive paradigm to look at the world. There no longer lies an element of foreignness in me when I listen to piano rock, because to me it is only a rendering styled in a specific tone, it is not something unrelated to Indian music. I can even mentally connect a traditional Indian song and a modern alternative rock song, seeing the difference only in language and minor flavor adjustments (the guitar instead of the sitar, for example).
Moreover, another surprising fact for the Westerner, although perhaps not so foreign to the ancient Greek, is that we are now in the most degenerate of ages. Greek philosophy did have such thoughts, I believe. For them it was Gold, Silver, Bronze and Stone (I think). In Indian philosophy it is the Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara Yuga and Kali Yuga. We are in the Kali Yuga. Today, and it is especially an American attitude, it is believed that we are getting better every day (especially the technology industry with all its opportunities). This is simply wrong, although it is the way it is supposed to be. We are not improving day by day until we get out of maya. Like every other student fond of technology, I always reacted to portrayals of America with awe and respect, something which has considerably decreased and I no longer have the craving to live in America one day and study at MIT. America, to me, seems like the ultimate maya machine. Akshay On 17/01/2008, Akshay Peshwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heather, you brought up just the question I wanted to answer. :) > > You see, to call India the parent of all knowledge and civilisation one > needs to understand a few things. First, the true original philosophy that I > am talking of is the parent of all civilisation. It cannot be characterised > by Indian, simply because it is observably distinct from what may be > perceived today in India. This is the famous divide between Vedic philosophy > and Hinduism, even though only apparent as some may believe. It is the Vedic > dharma and not Indian religion that is the parent of all humanity. Hinduism > is a degenerate form of Vedic philosophy, just as Buddhist or Christian > philosophy is, except that Hinduism is the closest to the Vedic religion, > not just in its language and ritual, but in all other aspects (unlike > Christianity which needed a certain Jesus of Nazareth to be educated in > Eastern philosophy and then sent to the West to preach -- yes, there is > considerable evidence that the biblically undocumented 12 years of Jesus' > life were in fact spent in Kashmir, where there still lies a tomb of his). > > Modern scholars all accept this, but only that they like to call the > parent the Proto-Indo-European religion rather than an honest acceptance > that it is the Vedic religion, nothing distant from us, nothing > unrecoverable. > > Another important reconciliation between the East and the West: French, > German, Arabic, Afrikaans, Japanese, Hindi, all of them, they come from one > parent, the Vedic language, except that it all depends on how similar they > are. If enough scholarly endeavour were encouraged, we would reach a clear > tracing of all the world's languages to this one language. *Hence, the > claim that I am not a true Hindu if I speak in English is malfounded, > because all languages come from one parent. *Also, the Sanskrit language > is considerably different from the Vedic. Sanskrit is a much smaller and > colloquial form of the much more abstruse Vedic language. > > Ergo, let us use the word "Vedic" for the parent civilisation instead of > Indian. It only happens that in India, the original dharma was well > preserved unlike the rest of the world (in fact, today in the West, not even > the true spirit of Christianity is being preserved, let alone the original > parent religion of all). There are a lot of factors to this -- Indian > geography being a very evident factor. > > Akshay > > > On 16/01/2008, Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Akshay: > > > Most people are first introduced to Eastern > > > philosophy > > > via Chinese thought (I Ching, Lao-tsu etc.), but > > > since it is Indian > > > thought > > > that is the parent of all thought systems of the > > > world (in fact, various > > > scholars have began tracing "foreign" religions to > > > direct > > > correspondences > > > with Indian thought, a commonly cited example being > > > the relation between > > > Latin Ju-piter, Greek Zeus Pater, and Sanskrit Dyaus > > > Pita). > > > > > > > > SA: "...Indian thought that is the parent of all > > thought systems of the world..." It depends on what > > you mean by "Indian", but I find this to be very > > ethnocentric. So, the Inca thought system can be > > traced back to "Indian thought"? > > > > > > SA > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
