> Ron: > I still say the enemy is intolerance, Muslim intolerance as a core > doctrine Of it's religious beliefs or whatever, it is intolerance.
Steve: Can someone explain what "tolerance" means? It seems like the sort of thing we are all supposed to cheer for but falls apart when you try to define it. I look forward to hearing your thoughts... Ron: The obvious fallback is the dictionary, lets see what that says. 1. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry. 2. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own. 3. interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one's own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint. 4. the act or capacity of enduring; endurance: My tolerance of noise is limited. I have to say, undogmatic viewpoint sounds close to what it means for me. I think what you are looking for out of me is a line drawn. My tolerance Ends for me personally when my human rights are violated. Then as every beings right, I have the right to self preservation should I choose to exercise it. Steve you can challenge peoples beliefs all you want but it seldom changes their mind. I could beat a creationist with a dinosaur bone and they'd never change their view. Reason does not apply to faith. For us it does, to them it does not. Lies of the devil they call it. When it comes right down to it enforcing a belief system even if its A rational one is seldom moral. Everybody has a right to their own Perceptions, nothing makes one any more correct than another. You can measure by the MOQ evolutionary level structure of morality But it only means something to MoQers. It like urinating in a dark suit, You get a warm feeling but no one else seems to notice. We can beat the crazies off with a stick on the grounds of self preservation but to hunt them down and eliminate Them on a MoQ moral crusade is just as immoral. Tolerance is better than Dogma. That's what I think. MoQ or otherwise. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
