Quoting Steven Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>  Hi All,
> 
> In his book, the End of Faith, Sam Harris counters the argument that without
> religion there would be no morality by claiming that morality is about 
> happiness
> and suffering. I don't have the book with me today, but there are several 
> examples
> of analyses he gives of moral decisions made on the basis of reducing 
> suffering.
> 
> 
> I'm no philosophy expert, but his thinking sounded Kantian to me. Is that what
> Kant was about?
> 
> What are the arguments against basing ethics on happiness/suffering?


"If you eliminate suffering from this world you eliminate life. There's no
evolution. Those species that don't suffer don't survive. Suffering is the
negative face of the Quality that drives the whole process." (Lila, 29) 



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