> [Arlo]
> Pirsig reserves the social and intellectual levels for "man", so a 
> strict MOQ answer would be that these are biological patterns.
> 
> Personally, I think such an exclusion hurts the MOQ's explanatory 
> power, and I do allow "non-man" creatures into my understanding of 
> social and intellectual patterns. To the examples you provide, my 
> inclination is to answer "if the behavior is learned, then it is 
> likely a social pattern. if even a lone squirrel who never 
> encounters another squirrel would do this, then it is likely
biological".

OK, so let's try to find the genesis point where  the split happens. So
biology says you got to reproduce, society says you need a 'mate' to
provide.

So the birds nest, do their mating ritual and nourish their young. That
is considered part of biology. 
The two sixteen years old have a good time in the back seat, now mom is
the single provider. Is that biology without intelelct?

Consequences. Well it's like sunscreen lotion, you need to apply it
before it's needed.
Of course you have those who say Abstinence is the answers, others who
say condoms. ( that's for another discussion)

So the intellectual is saying that before you put biology to work, you
need to apply some intellect.

That's the point Cristoffer was making. Those people's conversation was
void of the intellect. Does that indicate their thought/action pattern
across the board, or did they just choose to have a light hearted get
together. I am pretty sure that age has something to do with it too.

Back to that sunscreen analogy. The intellect is obviously learned and
has to be applied before during and after all biological activities. Even
the animals have their own rules. 

But remember, biology's sole purpose is survival. Intellect can only
interfere so much. The daily grind is not a pleasant thing, so tuning out
might be a biological pattern that says " enough is enough, I don't care
any more and I need to live for the moment"

Khaled 
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