On Sunday 17 February 2008 11:54 AM David M responds to Joe Hi Jo > > What is the structure to a law of order? Doesn't change have >to obey a law? Can it be described as empty in the presence of >the law? DM: What is law? This is a theolgical concept belonging to an omnipotent designer, SOM came out of deism and clings onto it, it does not belong in MOQ. Dropping such assumptions allows us to talk about patterns and repeats and SQ. What are patterns? We can only see order and patterns in the context of what is not. When F=mass times accelaration it rules it all other values for F, instead of there being a manifestation of all possible values there is an order, a restriction to one set of possibles, forsaking all others. Hi David and all, Law is a word. Take ³SOL², the L can stand for the word ³law² or ³language² and not change the meaning. A law is understood as the necessary relationship between 2 or more. Theology speaks of relationships based in Faith. Why the straw Man? Are there bad laws and good laws? Are you saying only mathematics contains good laws? Mathematics is a more precise language, but figures can lie as liars can figure. What is the structure to the language of order? Doesn¹t change have to obey a structure? Can it be described in the presence of the structure? Again Why the Straw Man? Joe
On 2/17/08 11:54 AM, "David M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jo > >> >> What is the structure to a law of order? Doesn't change have to obey a >> law? >> Can it be described as empty in the presence of the law? > > DM: What is law? This is a theolgical concept belonging to an omnipotent > designer, SOM came out of deism and clings onto it, it does not belong in > MOQ. > Dropping such assumptions allows us to talk about patterns and repeats and > SQ. > What are patterns? We can only see order and patterns in the context of what > is not. > When F=mass times accelaration it rules it all other values for F, instead > of there being > a manifestation of all possible values there is an order, a restriction to > one set > of possibles, forsaking all others. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
