Ron wrote (at the end of his digest of Feb. 21):
"Then you do not understand my meaning. I leave you
with:
Define Energy, we should start from there."
Jorge: as said, it might well be that I don't
understand the meaning you ascribe to Energy. Allow me
to elaborate on its meaning in Physics so that we
could examine whether 'that' Energy could be
considered equivalent as DQ or quality in general.
Energy is defined in Physics through the equation:
dE = q - W
where q is the heat absorbed or released by a system
(when going from one state to another), W is the work
effected by the system on its surroundings (or vice
versa). Thus dE is given as the difference in Energy
between those two states.
First of all, it refers to 'a system'(any portion of
the Universe we select for our T. discourse and
separated from its surroundings by specified
boundaries). If the system is not clearly defined the
equation becomes useless.
Second, it doesn't define Energy but differences in
energy. We have no way of assessing the Energy of a
system, only the Energy absorbed or released when said
system undergoes a change or process. We don't know
how to calculate the energy of a barrel full of
bricks; if we were to select said barrel as our
system, we can only calculate 'changes of energy'
through measuring either q or W.
If we try to consider in view of the above
propositions such as "quality is energy" or "thoughts
are energy" or others of the sort we are confronted
with a number of questions. Among them: how can we
devise systems encompassing those terms, how can we
express the changes in terms of heat or work, how
could quality or thoughts 'qua' energy be absorbed? To
equate DQ with energy poses even harder questions.
Physics, in its present state, has no answers to offer
to those questions, which is a way of saying that they
are outside its scope or, more bluntly, that the word
'energy' as used in the above propositions must look
for a meaning outside Science.
Ron:
Well put Jorge, Isn't this where we stand with Quality?
Is'nt Quality outside the scope of our ability to define
It? Only when we have isolated measurable data may we
Accurately define Energy or Quality, but isolation
And measurability are human conventions.
If the system is not clearly defined the
equation becomes useless. Therefore both quality and
energy must be defined to be useful. But this definition
is not it. This definition limits it to what is being measured.
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