Ian:
A scientist "messing about" is a bad scientist. Wild anarchic
experimentation should only take place in risk-limited environments,
like Hawkwind concerts. 

Ron:
OMG, Hawkwind!   What a fun band, I was turned on to
The saga of Elric of Melnibone from listening to them.
Used to love Michael Moorcocks' stuff. 
Lemmy Kilminster got me to pick up motorhead,
Hawkwind opened me up to all sorts of fun.



On 3/24/08, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> How do you suggest experimenting with genes might
> damge our souls? Does not nature experiment with genes
> daily?
>
> DM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ian glendinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Kierkegaard
>
>
> > Hi DM,
> >
> > Of course "messing around" could damage our souls - that's not a
> > reductionist thing to say. It would be reductionist to focus on the
> > genes for an explanation though ;-)
> >
> > Ian
> >
> > On 3/21/08, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> looks like some Scottish cadrinal is pretty reductionist, thinking
> >> that messing around with genes might damage our souls
> >>
> >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7308224.stm
> >>
> >> pretty reductionist
> >>
> >> DM
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'll add a comment to my own post, using something David M said
on
> >> > another forum, that ties in with - "the same paradoxical path"
> >> > referred to.
> >> >
> >> > To paraphrase DM
> >> > "Both scientific rationality and christian theistic tradition are
> >> > equally reductionist / simplistic when it comes to explaining the
> >> > whole of reality. Neither has a monopoly on being wrong."
> >> >
> >> > Discuss.
> >> > Ian
> >> >
> >> > On 3/20/08, ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >> Excellent edition of "In Our Time today" on Kierkegaard
> >> >>
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20080320.shtml
> >> >>
> >> >> [QUOTE]
> >> >> It's also fascinating that he saw the two great teachers,
Socrates and
> >> >> Jesus Christ, as eschewing the same paradoxical path towards
truth.
> >> >> It is open to speculation what he would have thought of the
influence
> >> >> he had on the atheistic Jean-Paul Sartre.
> >> >>
> >> >> But it always came back to Christianity.  Kierkegaard knew that
it did
> >> >> not make sense.  It was a challenge to reason and that was the
> >> >> magnetic mystery of it because there was, undoubtedly, truth in
it.
> >> >> It's an awful pity that Dawkins could not have been around then.
> >> >> Perhaps even more of a pity that Kierkegaard could not be around
now.
> >> >> [UNQUOTE]
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> Ian
> >> >> BTW - for those who have trouble with these on-line links -
humour me
> >> >> - go to the "Podcast" page and right-click on the "Download
Episode"
> >> >> link and "Save Target", or whatever equivalent Mac users have to
do.
> >> >>
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