[Arlo] Synthesize these two positions for me, Ham. Do we not experience our "cosmic purpose"? If we do experience it, how can "intellect get in the way" if experience is "always an intellectual distinction"? If our "seeing" our cosmic purpose precedes intellect, and hence precedes experience, how do we see it? Is it something we "feel"?
[Krimel] I don't know about my cosmic purpose but like Steve Martin's character in "The Jerk" I found my "special purpose" at an early age. About all I have to say about that I said earlier to Ron, "Thank God for the internet!" > [Krimel] > What in the world does this have to do with a collectivist view? [Arlo] Nothing. Its a meaningless word of derision affixed to any and all who oppose Ham's interpretations. If you don't agree with him, why you MUST be a GASP collectivist! He uses it as a synonym for the Big Bugaboo "nihilism". [Krimel] I get confused a lot. If collectivists and nihilists are the same, were Jesus and his disciples nihilists? [Ham's Question du Jour] Do you agree with Krimel that "cosmic purpose is an absurd notion"? [Arlo] I'd say "cosmic purpose" is an intriguing speculation, perhaps. For some it is a comforting nightcap. But for me the question of absurdity revolves around this, if "man" has "a cosmic purpose", does anything else? Do whales have a cosmic purpose? Does my dog have a cosmic purpose? Or in all the cosmos, it is only "man" that has a "purpose"? (This isn't a question to you, Ham, I know what your answer is.) [Krimel] Or couldn't the cosmos have a purpose but we have none? I want to know what good is a purpose if you have to have the special decoder ring to figure it out? I am pretty sure my dog had a "special purpose." He used to try to hump my leg a lot. And Arlo, don't you think Ham ought to tell us his denomination? I find it odd that he keeps ducking that one. I used to be a Presbyterian. I could still be one if I could get up that early on weekends. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
