> [Arlo]: > > Synthesize these two positions for me, Ham. > > Do we not experience our "cosmic purpose"?
[Ham] > No. We "intuit it" if we believe it at all. Clearly, many do not. [Platt} Morality seems to suffer the same fate. Clearly, many do not believe in a rational morality. > > I don't know about my cosmic purpose but like > > Steve Martin's character in "The Jerk" I found my > > "special purpose" at an early age. About all I have to > > say about that I said earlier to Ron, > > "Thank God for the internet!" [Ham] > Glad you found your special purpose via the Internet, but what, apart from > arrogance, makes you think it's your "cosmic purpose"? [Platt] We must try to understand, Ham, that Hollywood and the Internet are modern temples of worship. > > What in the world does this have to do with a collectivist view? [Ham] > I find that the post-modern, elitist, nihilistic concept of reality > invariably hangs on a collectivist view of mankind. [Platt] You nailed it, Ham. Stir in scientific authority and you have the brew for enslavement. > > I get confused a lot. If collectivists and nihilists are > > the same, were Jesus and his disciples nihilists? [Ham] > This is a non-sequitor statement. Collectivism as a social system didn't > appear until Marx in the 19th century. A dozen followers selected by a > prophet doesn't constitute a collective, nor were the Hebrews of Judea > nihilists, as you well know. [Platt] Right. Collectivism is a social system where man exists for the sake of the state. In practice the system has slaughtered millions -- a fact its modern proponents conveniently ignore while blaming the U.S., founded on the principle of individual rights, for all the world's ills. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
