Hi Platt

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I beg to differ I have always agreed with Pirsig that individuals are
> combinations of all four levels plus the ability to respond to DQ. I also 
> agree
> with Pirisg when he writes: "Second, there were moral codes that established 
> the
> supremacy of the social order over biological life—conventional morals 
> —proscriptions
> against drugs, murder, adultery, theft and the like." (Lila, 13). So I fail to
> understand your criticism. 

But those two quotes are somewhat contradictory, don't you see that? 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pirsig realize this later, and then 
excused himself (and the MoQ) by saying that the MoQ is just a 
superficially constructed system made to try to understand human 
interaction better. Or in other terms, he seems to have given up on the 
MoQ being a complete and sound metaphysics, whereas I have tried to 
refine it to fix contradictions like that.

So, we have:

1. Individuals are combinations of all four levels plus the ability to 
respond to DQ. (I can agree with that, but it's *not* this "ability to 
respond to DQ" that gives us our mind, sets us apart from the animals or 
whatever. Everything responds to DQ. That's implied in the Q->DQ/SQ split.)

2. Social patterns are morally obliged to rule over biological patterns.

Now, this "free market" is a social pattern, regardless of whether you 
dare to agree to it or not. And when you say you want the free market to 
reign, you are degrading all participants of that free market, including 
yourself, to biological patterns. That's 2 above.

But minutes later, when it suits you, you want to change into 1 above 
and be an intellectual, free person, who *don't* want to be governed by 
any social patterns.

Don't you realize that this is a very low-Q and selfish way to (ab)use 
the MoQ?

        Magnus

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