Platt,

     Here's the shorter interpretation.  Metaphysics
is defined, the dynamic quality isn't, so, separate
the moq from the dynamic quality it talks about.  So,
what you said about the moq being "only" intellectual
to Bo is not totally correct.


woods,
SA




> > Platt:
> > > In the interests of being fair and balanced,
> this
> > > from the great author himself:
> > > BAGGINI: Although the metaphysics of quality is
> > > important in “Zen and the Art of
> > > Motorcycle Maintenance”, it seems to me that
> perhaps
> > > more important is a certain
> > > attitude to existence which it advocates. Is it
> > > possible to separate the metaphysics
> > > from this attitude and if so, which is more
> > > important to you?
> > > 
> > > PIRSIG: Yes, the Metaphysics of Quality itself
> is
> > > static and should be separated from
> > > the Dynamic Quality it talks about. Like the
> rest of
> > > the printed philosophic
> > > tradition it doesn't change from day to day,
> > > although the world it talks about does.
> > > To use an Oriental metaphor, it is just another
> > > finger pointing toward the moon.
> > > 
> > > --- From an interview with Baggini
> > > 
> > > Perhaps my "weltenschauung" notion was not such
> a
> > > hot idea after all. Also
> > > Pirsig's answer implies the MOQ is a static
> > > intellectual pattern. That you disagree
> > > with Pirsig about this is noted. 
> > 
> > 
> > SA:  Pirsig isn't stating that the moq is ONLY a
> > static intellectual patterns.  Pirsig is stating
> that
> > the moq is a static pattern.  By this he's
> referring
> > to what metaphysics is traditionally patterned as,
> > which is a metaphysics is a definition of reality.
> 
> > Pirsig is pointing out that any definition of
> reality
> > is a static pattern (thus all four levels). 
> Notice
> > Pirsig points out that this definitional aspect,
> key
> > concept here is 'defining/definition (choose your
> > grammatical inclusion of define)', thus, this
> > definitional aspect of what a metaphysics does
> would
> > not be able to keep up with the changing "world",
> > unless, a metaphysics includes a mechanism that
> can
> > allow the metaphysics to change and keep up with a
> > changing world.  The mechanism for the moq to keep
> up
> > with a world that changes is - dynamic quality, as
> > Pirsig points out above, "Yes, the Metaphysics of
> > Quality itself is static and should be separated
> from
> > the Dynamic Quality it talks about."
> >      What Pirsig is saying, is, keep definition
> > separated from nondefinition, in other words, keep
> > traditional, defining metaphysics separated from
> world
> > that changes (dynamic quality), in other words,
> keep
> > static separated from dynamic.  That's all Pirsig
> is
> > pointing out here.  Here's talking about the first
> > split of quality here.
> 
> SA:
> 
> Wow. That's a lot of interpretation for a fairly
> simple declarative 
> sentence.
> 
> Platt
> 
> 
> 
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