On Monday 21 April 2008 7:59 AM Ron writes: Ron: It is most important at this level of discussion that we understand Our terms, meanings and context. Calling immediate awareness or Pre-intellectual experience "MoQ" is like making a comic parody Of the unaware SOM taking itself as reality.. The reality of the whole situation, to be said plainly, Is that everything is composed and modulations of- Dynamic Quality. Static is a term which is used to define that which is meaningful in Dynamic experience. Therefore the term static is superfluous to dynamic experience. Thus also MoQ is superfluous to Dynamic experience. When we embrace Dynamic experience and release all notions of metaphysic Then it may be said that one has attained a Quality awareness. As Marsha's diamond sutra post states, it is the simultaneous awareness of this And the development of meaning and intent through it that full living Is brought to bear in the immediate now.
Hi Ron and all, ³The reality of the whole situation, to be said plainly, Is that everything is composed and modulations of-Dynamic Quality.² I can rewrite this sentence: ³The reality of the whole situation, to be said plainly, is that everything is composed and modulations of-the undefined.² I can¹t use words for the undefined, and I don¹t know how to talk to you in an email message. If you add ³IMO², then I realize that you are searching for clarity. The sentence then resides in your awareness-consciousness, an aspect of which is undefinedpersonal to you. The other aspect of our awareness= consciousness is mechanical: ³Culture hands us a set of glasses.² I can respond by email with my own conscious experience of ³reality², a part of which I accept as personal to me and undefined. The undefined part is in my consciousness which I have by evolution to a social level, which I point to by metaphors or analogies, e.g. a law of seven of order. An undefined level in my consciousness is an evolved level above the intellectual level, a higher social level, MOQ ? There is one more level in conscious evolution, the higher intellectual level manifested by particular heroes. MOQ is a description for levels of evolution. IMO If I say that, it indicates that MOQ with a DQ/SQ division is in my awareness. DQ, then, is only an acceptance that my awareness has an undefined aspect. I am not a creating agent, and DQ is not a creating agent. Communication is communal. Joe On 4/21/08 7:59 AM, "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Platt, >> >> Here's the shorter interpretation. Metaphysics >> is defined, the dynamic quality isn't, so, separate >> the moq from the dynamic quality it talks about. So, >> what you said about the moq being "only" intellectual >> to Bo is not totally correct. >> >> >> woods, >> SA > > SA,. > > Yes, but the MOQ is not ONLY DQ. It is both DQ and SQ. > > Platt > > Ron: > It is most important at this level of discussion that we understand > Our terms, meanings and context. Calling immediate awareness or > Pre-intellectual experience "MoQ" is like making a comic parody > Of the unaware SOM taking itself as reality.. > > The reality of the whole situation, to be said plainly, > Is that everything is composed and modulations of- > Dynamic Quality. > > Static is a term which is used to define that which is meaningful in > Dynamic experience. Therefore the term static is superfluous to dynamic > experience. > Thus also MoQ is superfluous to Dynamic experience. > > When we embrace Dynamic experience and release all notions of metaphysic > Then it may be said that one has attained a Quality awareness. > > As Marsha's diamond sutra post states, it is the simultaneous > awareness of this And the development of meaning and intent > through it that full living Is brought to bear in the > immediate now. > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
