At 02:38 PM 4/29/2008, you wrote: >On Tuesday 29 April 2008 MarshaV writes to SA: > >Greetings, > >Is this to be the next topic? There is a technique which is to >practice imagined dying. Aren't living and dying two sides to the >same coin? Isn't this a topic that invokes great discomfort and >fear? What would be dying? Intellectual patterns? Social >patterns? Biological patterns? Hmm. Inorganic patterns? > >Marsha > >At 07:13 PM 4/28/2008, you wrote: > > > When you are strong and healthy, > > You never think of sickness coming, > > But it descends with sudden force > > Like a stroke of lightning. > > > > When involved in worldly things, > > You never think of death's approach; > > Quick it comes like thunder > > Crashing round your head. > > > > > > by Milarepa > > > > > >raining again, > >SA > >Hi MarshaV, SA and all, > >What would be dying? I have always surmised that the social level is the >level of proprietary awareness (consciousness). When Louise lay dying her >moan as I inserted a pain pill lasted till the very end. Though she was at >home she was still hooked up to life-support tubes: nasal-gastro tube, >oxygen tube, nutrition tube. As I looked at her, I thought what is she >fighting for? She swallowed, she removed the oxygen tube, she pulled at the >nutrition tube. My answer was: with all the paraphernalia connected she >could not feel empty. The nasal tube was particularly upsetting because to >keep a vacuum valve above her head the mechanism provided no Chromed bracket >so I fashioned one out of a coat hanger. I received many words of >displeasure about a coat hanger. It was not conducive to feeling empty. > >After three weeks the feeling of emptiness seemed to me was the most >important thing to achieve. I had the hospice nurse remove the nasal-gastro >tube, remove the oxygen harness from under her nose, remove the feeding >tube. After that was accomplished, though she was recently medicated, she >passed within 12 minutes. Before she was covered I looked at her. There was >no disapproval on her face at a coat-hanger bracket or anything. Her face >looked totally calm and at rest. > >Joe >
Hi Joe, We also had the help of Hospice for the last 5 weeks, but no tubes other than morphine. This happened fast, four & 1/2 months from diagnosis to death. At the end it was just him and I, which was as he wished. There was a sigh. This last act was not sad, but almost joyous. I stayed and held his hand for 30 minutes before calling Hospice. This was also his wish. He had been a little afraid of crossing alone. Taking care of this man, this sick and dying man, the dying, seemed like something I had been doing since the beginning of time. It was a honor and privilege. Marsha Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
