Hi Ham, As much as I hate to disagree with a good philosopher and friend I suggest you'll find Pirsig eulogizing the individual in Chapter 9 of Lila where he describes at length the influence of an "arrant individualist" in changing the Zuni society. There are many other places where the individual is prominent in Pirsig's philosophy including a prisoner on death row who, unless a threat to society, ought to be allowed to live as one who can still "respond to Dynamic Quality." Most of all, Pirsig himself is no shrinking collectivist violet, often referring to his individualistic self as "Phaedrus."
Regards, Platt On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 2:46 PM, david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ham continued: > I've been unable to find any references to individuality, individualism, > individual freedom, self-determination, proprietary awareness, or personal > autonomy. Instead, in all these quotes citing "subjects", "mind", "life", > and "free", there is the presumption of a collective consciousness being > dominated or controlled by DQ. > Unless you can provide a statement by the author supporting the individual > as the conscious locus of existential reality or the agent of value in the > world, I don't see how you can refute my "self in a vat" characterization of > his philosophy > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
