Hi Mark

Not just church and sex but church & culture and vicissitude i.e. change.
My point is not about sex but why a word linked with change, i.e. vice,
is seen as a bad thing.

DM


Hi MOQers?
> Another thought. Is sex a vice?

Hi David,
According to the moq it can be viewed as a social vice.
Debates regarding the legalisation of prostitution and the commodification of sex in the entertainment and pleasure industries are centred around this issue it seems to me.

David:
What makes it so?

s: According to the moq it is the degree to which it may undermine social cohesion.

David:
What makes something vicious?

s: According to the moq this may be when biological patterns relating to the extreme violent appropriation of power and submission?dominate.

David:
Is it when we lose?> control?

s: I should think it may be.

David:
When order is overcome or missing?

s: I think the term overcome is unfortunate in this exploration.
And as for missing?
Well, it happens to the best of us.

David:
Is vice and viciousness all a matter or vicissitude?

s: The hormones can become very erratic as biological development takes its course. It is a bit of a crime in our culture older people are?not perceived to be sexual beings for example.
Not sure what you're asking here though?
?
David:
Of, in other words dynamic change?

s: Dynamic change and degeneration perhaps with regard to social conflict: There?may be?social codes which impose that which is felt to be appropriate.

David:
Such are our?
inherited and perhaps questionable values.

s: Not a bad thing to question values.

Vice,vicissitude, vicious -all same word origin apparently.?
> David M

s: This may lead back to the church and its dark view of things sexual?

squonk
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