Steve
Is not getting stuck and addicted not falling away from DQ and
into SQ without DQ? Does this not dull desire and remove
the true satisfactions of DQ?
DM
[David M]:
Does not desire cause us to change because it leaves us not the same?
[Steve]:
A desire can become a vice if we allow it to consume us, constantly
occupying our minds, trying to satisfy it though never reaching a
final state of satisfaction, allowing it to become an addiction.
An addict with a particular desire I would say stays the same over
time, or at least his state of mind stays the same.
Desire itself is not bad, only in excess is it bad. I suppose i
should have said lust is "excessive desire" instead of just "desire".
Peace,
Steve
Another thought. Is sex a vice? What makes it so?
What makes something vicious? Is it when we lose
control? When order is overcome or missing?
Is vice and viciousness all a matter or vicissitude?
Of, in other words dynamic change? Such are our
inherited and perhaps questionable values.
Vice,vicissitude, vicious -all same word origin apparently.
sex is a biological pattern of high value. it becomes a vice when it
transgresses higher value patterns
David M
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