Chris,

You wrote the Intellectual Level as "Knowledge for Knowledge's sake. Alone."

I like this.

Marsha



----- Original Message ----- From: "Christoffer Ivarsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: [MD] Regarding The Fundamental Nature of The Intellectual Level


My Fellow MOQers

This thing regarding the nature of the intellectual level has proven to be, well, difficult - to say the least. I think we can all agree that the nature of the intellectual level is that of a way of responding/understanding/seeing/etc Quality in ways that are different to the ways that the other levels /responds/sees/understands Quality.

Most everyone of you are fully aware of the debate concerning the "Symbol manipulation" given by Mr Pirsig and other explanations and interpretations of the nature of the intellectual level - most notably Bodvars SOL.

I myself tend to discard the symbol manipulation explanation because of the - as I see it - quite obvious reason that this is not in conflict with anything. The MOQ is a moral order, as we all know, and the different levels have more or less competing "views" on Quality and how to follow it. Thus I am inclined to thing along the paths of

"What is not by it's _fundamental nature_ in service of either the inorganic, the biological or the social level?"

As I said - manipulation of symbols doesn't really cut it for me - where is the FUNDAMENTAL conflict?

Today I thought about "human nature". Human nature and what thing it is that is usually connected to the expression that it is in "the human nature".

The Quest for knowledge. Embedded in us since - well, pretty much always. This drive that seems to be something that is a fundamental part of what makes humans humans, and something that - of course - may service our biological needs and our social standards, but that in essance is separated from these things, that in essance is something that strives towards something quite aside from these Patterns of Value. Knowledge for knowledge's sake.

I am not sure that it *is* the Intellectual level, but it sure seems to be a most notable manifestation of it.

Knowledge for Knowledge's sake. Alone.

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