Greetings,
Might there be a mythological relationship with a quest for knowledge and
the Faust tradition. I've done the reading from Marlowe to Mann. It's all
very interesting. My favorite was Goethe which I read in English, and I
still have a fantasy that someone will read it to me in German. Goethe was
a very interesting guy.
Marsha
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christoffer Ivarsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:19 AM
Subject: [MD] Regarding The Fundamental Nature of The Intellectual Level
My Fellow MOQers
This thing regarding the nature of the intellectual level has proven to
be, well, difficult - to say the least. I think we can all agree that the
nature of the intellectual level is that of a way of
responding/understanding/seeing/etc Quality in ways that are different to
the ways that the other levels /responds/sees/understands Quality.
Most everyone of you are fully aware of the debate concerning the "Symbol
manipulation" given by Mr Pirsig and other explanations and
interpretations of the nature of the intellectual level - most notably
Bodvars SOL.
I myself tend to discard the symbol manipulation explanation because of
the - as I see it - quite obvious reason that this is not in conflict
with anything. The MOQ is a moral order, as we all know, and the different
levels have more or less competing "views" on Quality and how to follow
it. Thus I am inclined to thing along the paths of
"What is not by it's _fundamental nature_ in service of either the
inorganic, the biological or the social level?"
As I said - manipulation of symbols doesn't really cut it for me - where
is the FUNDAMENTAL conflict?
Today I thought about "human nature". Human nature and what thing it is
that is usually connected to the expression that it is in "the human
nature".
The Quest for knowledge. Embedded in us since - well, pretty much always.
This drive that seems to be something that is a fundamental part of what
makes humans humans, and something that - of course - may service our
biological needs and our social standards, but that in essance is
separated from these things, that in essance is something that strives
towards something quite aside from these Patterns of Value. Knowledge for
knowledge's sake.
I am not sure that it *is* the Intellectual level, but it sure seems to be
a most notable manifestation of it.
Knowledge for Knowledge's sake. Alone.
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