[Chris]
When I talk about the Marxist theory I mostly mean the strive
towards abolishing the capitalist system (so that social values such as
profit isn't allowed to subjugate humanity's strive towards knowledge)
[Craig]
In comparing Marxism to a free society, this seems the area where Marxism
is weakest.
[Chris]
How so?
[Craig]
Marxism's record regarding innovation & accumulation of
knowledge falls way short of the free market's.
[Chris]
We both know that a real communist society never have existed, so to talk
about any kind of "Record" for theories that never has been is pointless.
Craig
[Chris]
classic Marxism saying we need a several hundred year transition period
of socialism where the social values are reshaped to be more in the
intellectual levels favour.
[Craig
But imagine what progress a free society could make in those centuries.
[Chris)
The point is that the progress that can be made in a capitalist (social
level dominated) society always will be subjugated to what has high or low
social value (I.e what you can make money of)
[Craig]
You may be right about Lenin. I've never heard anyone defend him, so
I know him from only his role in overthrowing Kerensky & executing without
trial the Romanov family & their servants. (So much for workers.)
[Chris
No, why should one know more then one side of a story? It doesn't have very
high social value after all. And regarding the Romanov's and their
execution - so what? Or are we to explore anachronism here?
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