[Marsha]
I'm not sure if purchasing an organic apple is really
deliberate. Sophisticated? Yes. Deliberate. I don't think
so. Most of what we do on a social level is automatic.
[Arlo]
I disagree. When I form the intent to purchase an organic apple,
decide the best strategy for enacting this purchase, and then put
this plan into effect, I am acting in a very deliberate way. It is
not automatic, it requires me to think, to plan, to make decisions
(which store, when, etc), plan for contingencies (what if they are
out of apples but have organic pears?). And, this happens within a
broader context of deliberations, what am I eating and when, etc.
I'd say that both social and intellectual activity is deliberate (in
terms of human activity). The difference is in the object of
activity. Don't get me wrong, when people first started asking "what
is blueness?" it set them on a vastly more complex (higher evolved
level) than "simply" the social negotiations required to use "blue"
to point to particular experiences with certain objects.
Consider that if we think of social activity as "automatic", what
does this say about the period in human evolution pre-dating the
intellectual level? Were all humans automatons until intellect
appears on the scene? Or did social activity "automate" once we
started thinking intellectually? If so, why? Better, how?
Instead I'd argue that in certain cultures, certain social and
intellectual patterns become very reified and thus appear to be
"automatic". But this appearance of automation masks the very real
agency social and intellectual levels afford, regardless of whether
that agency is non-conformative or used to reify static patterns.
But we may end up agreeing to disagree on this, and that's okay.
As for your "cougar" daughter, this is another one of those strange
patriarchal areas. What would you say the male equivalent would be?
We have MILFs all over the place, but do we have any DILFs? We know
that "Stacey's Mom" has got it going on, but what about Stacey's dad?
Does he? On the other hand, I've been told by some women I know that
the terms are actually empowering because they force people to
recognize that women (not just teen girls) are sexual beings, that
they validate the sexual identity of older women. Thoughts?
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