Agreed DMB ... I did say exactly that ... let's get onto the meat, etc ...

(Which is why I was shocked at your statement suggesting the Pirsig
had said everything that needed saying on the social / intellectual
levels matter. Obviously my "silly" question back at you was
rhetorical - intended to to get you to explain what you DID mean by it
....)

Onward and upward.
Ian

On 7/19/08, david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ian said:
> DMB, is that you suggesting Pirsig's words are final and not open to 
> discussion and improvement?
>
> dmb says:
> No, of course not. We've done nothing else but discuss them here for many 
> years. Its a silly question. I'd eagerly welcome any improvements too. Of 
> course, as you've already noticed, I often think your words need improvement. 
> You don't seem particularly open to that discussion. You express a fine 
> principle here. I just wish you'd apply it to yourself.
>
> And again, where's the beef? Where's the content? Mati isn't taking an 
> opinion poll here, he's trying to get people to think together. You're not 
> really contributing anything by simply expressing your likes and dislikes, 
> there also needs to be some kind of case made. Your question - with its 
> insulting implication - seems to be in response to something I wrote but I 
> sincerely have no idea what it could be because you didn't say. Again, you're 
> being vague and unhelpful. Didn't you say you wanted to stop with this sort 
> of nonsense and get to the meat of the issue just yesterday?
>
> Seriously, why don't you say something of substance for a change. I'd be 
> happy to defend the things I actually write if you'd care to actually make a 
> case. At least then we'd be fighting about something that matters. But this 
> sort of junk is just boring and irrelevant.
>
> Thanks.
> dmb
>
>
>
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