[Platt] Does that sound like American Indians contributed to the concepts of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?"
[Arlo] "And yet, although Jefferson called this doctrine of social equality "self-evident," it is not at all self-evident. Scientific evidence and the social evidence of history indicate the opposite is self-evident. There is no "self-evidence" in European history that all men are created equal. There's no nation in Europe that doesn't trace its history to a time when it was "self-evident" that all men are created unequal. Jean Jacques Rousseau, who is sometimes given credit for this doctrine, certainly didn't get it from the history of Europe or Asia or Africa. He got it from the impact of the New World upon Europe and from contemplation of one particular kind of individual who lived in the New World, the person he called the "Noble Savage." (LILA) Does that? So again, your quote shows that Indian tribes, like Europeans, had a barbarous streak. This shows in much greater detail the contributions of Indian life to our culture. No contradiction, only you continue to put Pirsig against Pirsig to use one phrase to disprove another that doesn't meet your warped ideological slogans. I accept them both. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
