[Craig] Yes, that's why a primate "troop leader" is biological, but a calvary troop leader is social.
[Krimel] Obviously I think that both are social and the only way to conclude otherwise is to adopt a taxonomic system that ignores the structure, function, origins and development of the matter under question. Ron: It's "cavalry" in military terms not calvary which is a hill. Officers used to be chosen on social merit in Victorian times but anyone from society may be an officer today. They go to Academic training at Military Academies. They are intellectual positions earned. just a note. [Krimel] Often the alpha male in a chimpanzee troop is the biggest and baddest but on occasion he is the smartest and most devious. Again the distinction blurs and the taxonomy seems artificial. Ron: Quite right, that is why I proposed that the levels are defined by the society being observed. If smart monkeys repeatedly kick the physically superior monkeys asses then the Intellectual level emerges. But if the physical monkeys rule and the society defines itself by that criteria. Then an entirely different set of values are defined. the ability to kick ass biologically and intellectually, the evolution of the big bad and smart. or the "Human". the t.v show "survivor" illustrates human social conditions in western society rather well. playing social intellectual and biological conditions against each other to gain dominance. the winner usually the one who knows what to employ when. there is never a clear universal. That is why MoQ method is valuable when predicting possible outcomes based on unique situations. the ability to create a tailor made taxonomy from inductive inference is it's strength. then we may deduce a range of outcomes. a probability field which would narrow as time progresses toward the prediction point. this is the mathematic wave collapse point that is often conceptualized concretely. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
