I should have added "Thanks" to Ant. http://robertpirsig.org/Copleston.htm
[Craig, previously] Marsha & Platt, Thanks, the Copleston Annotations are a gold mine. (One wishes Pirsig would have engaged more modern, original thinkers like Rand or Wittgenstein.) 1) "Quality is a phenomenal reality." 2) "In the MOQ the state is a social pattern, no more." 3) "The MOQ supports intellectual freedom from the state but not biological freedom." 4) [Ferrier's first move is to look for the absolute starting-point of metaphysics in a proposition which states the one invariable and essential feature in all knowledge, and which cannot be denied without contradiction.--Copleston] "For the MOQ this is, Some things are better than others. Every infant knows this before he learns his first word." 5) "phenomena exist independently of talk about them." 6) "there is no way you can disbelieve that there is such a thing as quality. You cannot conceive of or live in a world in which nothing is better than anything else." 7) [According to Green, to say that a thing is real is to say that it is a member in a system of relations, the order of Nature.--Copleston] " The MOQ says experience is reality. It doesnt need a system of relations to be real." I still think "experience is reality" is too glib, out of context. Better would be: 7') . Experience doesnt need a system of relations to be real. It is already real. Craig
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