On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>
> [Craig]
> I still think "experience is reality" is too glib, out of context.
> Better would be:
> 7') .  Experience doesn't need a system of relations to be real.  It is
> already real.
>
> Ron:
> An excellent list Craig, I would say experience doesn't need a system of
> relations to be real but it does require a system of relations to be
> understood. (hot stove).
>
> Hi Ron:
Pirsig says reality doesn't require a system of relations to be understood.

"Quality doesn't have to be defined. You understand it without definition,
ahead of definition. Quality is a direct experience independent of and prior
to intellectual abstractions." (Lila, 5)

Probably just a difference between you and Pirsig about  the meaning of
"understand."

Platt
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