At 09:00 AM 8/18/2008, you wrote:
Marsha:
Getting beyond materialism is the most important step.  And that would be to
get beyond materialism using analytic inquiry.  It would be nice to have
enlightenment en Toto, but I doubt that is going to happen any time soon.
Unless, of course, it occurs at our mass destruction.

I found Nagarjuna's logic impeccable.  My understanding isn't nearly as
thorough as I'd like, but I knew from the first time I read it that here was
the key to putting subjects and objects in their subordinate place.  And
unless the ILLUSION of a s/o world is understood deeply, there will be no
deep insight.   The clinging and acquiring will continue.

I'm assuming you've read Nagarjuna.  Have you?

Ron:
Yes I have, and I understand your point as provided above, It's just
when you make a statement like:
Intellectual Level:  Thought (patterns) established and emerging from
analytic inquiry.

It sounds to me that like Bo, you define the intellectual level as Analytic thought. Which I disagree with, the whole purpose of Nagarjuna's tetra lemma is to expose this fallacy through the use analytics to deconstruct this method of thinking which to an analytical mind has more success and makes more sense then all the citations to the contrary, only through analytics
may you prove that analytics is not the only way to intellectualize.

thanks
Marsha

Ron,

The tetralemma is Indian logic. Logic is logic. That Nagarjuna uses it so decisively to find a middle way between idealism and reification to a two-truth solution is a wonderment. He must have been very beautiful to be so clear.

My recommendation is tetralemma straight up.  Never mind the whimpy mixers.

Marsha




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