Bo 21 Aug. you wrote:
> Ron: > How do you conceptualize the DQ/SQ schism? If I remember correctly, by > your interpretation,SQ is all we may know, DQ is indefinable. Bo: The MOQ postulates (conceptualizes) a DQ/SQ schism. It says that DQ is the source from which the inorganic level (as its first creation) sprang. The rest of the levels spring from the level below "egged on" by the DQ that saturates all existence. (I like the wave/water example, the waves are static forms of dynamic water) SQ is definitely "all we may know", I believe that is MOQ's central tenet. The MOQ is the DQ/SQ reality. Full stop!. Pirsig originally said that the MOQ is an intellectual pattern, meaning a theory about Quality, but THAT violates his own container logic, it violates the MOQ too by creating a "QUALITY//DQ/SQ" metaphysics. He abandoned it later by saying that Quality=DQ, but in the "Summary" from 2005 he repeated the old sentence again, that which DMB clings too and makes the MOQ a SOM subsidiary ...a mere subjective theory. Ron: Seems as if you postulate that the MoQ is the extension of the objectivism of SOM. Essentially you are changing the terms in which objectivism is defined and positing THAT as reality, while retaining the old definition as a "subset", interesting. When you make the statement: "The MOQ is the DQ/SQ reality. Full stop!". You literally mean you conceive the MoQ as reality. That when we speak of it here we are speaking about how reality actually functions universally and absolutely as DQ/SQ, that SQ is actual form in the DQ sea. If I could ask you another question, do you understand form(SQ) to be created and acted upon as separate and distinct from DQ? you do define it as a "schism". Thanks for the patience Bo, I want to really understand you before I make any more critiques. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
