[Arlo] > I'd say your cats will never achieve self-consciousness (as we have it) until > their neurobiological complexity evolves to a point where they can hold shared > attention and begin manipulating social symbols. > A strict physiologist might say that all it will take is for the > neurobiological complexity to appear.
Koko the gorilla that was taught sign-language learned the word for Koko. So presumedly, she had self-consciousness. But we need to distinguish between 'being conscious of x' & 'having the concept of x'. A gorilla running thru the forest is conscious of a tree, otherwise it couldn't avoid running into it, but doesn't have the concept of a tree. The question is: is a self' the kind of thing one can only be conscious of, if one has that concept? Or is it enough to have intentions, make choices, revise decisions & the like? Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
