It would be a sad day if Arlo and Marsha couldn't understand each other, so I'm interested in this conversation without wishing to deflect it.
I'll hope Arlo's "you body is irrelevant" remark was a little extreme for emphasis, in his context ;-) That said, I've had several conversations elsewhere that conclude with the idea that honesty & sincerity in expressing truth are biggies, such biggies that almost nothing else matters much, whilst that's in doubt on either side of a conversation. I have the scars to prove it. In my view, the debate (as always, as Arlo illustrates) is in ... what is this "reality" in whose truth we are being sincere and honest ? As soon as we move away from things entirely literal and objective, as we must in this MoQish context, then we must rely on "patterns" of behaviour (and intent) built-up over time; behaviors that must include analogy, simulation, thought-experiments, mind-games, and other rhetorical tricks in order to be "creative". Everyone starts with a balance of trust, but it's the most valuable resource to work at maintaining. It's the "perceived intent" in the tricks that can be the trust-killer, not the "tricks" per se. Ian On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 1:41 PM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:14 PM 9/15/2008, you wrote: > > >> [Marsha] >> What do you want? >> >> [Arlo] >> Right now? A root beer float. >> > > > [Marsha] > That does sound good to me too. > > > > > > . > . > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... > . > . > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
