Greetings, Joseph --
You ask Bo: "Do you believe that this ordered universe,
'the metaphysical equivalent to Newton's physical revolution',
exists independently of its realization by the cognizant mind?
In other words, can a universe exist without sensible awareness?"
You tell Marsha: "It is existence which is differentiated and
transient." And you give the reason for the affirmation:
"And this is because the locus of subjective experience --
individuated awareness -- is detached from the essential
source, thus limited in its perspective."
I ask you Ham, How does an individual sentient rise above
individuated awareness? Your answer is revelation describes
the essential source by analogy. In biblical terms, we "see
through a glass, darkly."
The individual is a being-aware. Awareness is not "collective" but is
proprietary to the individual. The object of awareness is what the
individual experiences. But the sentient individual never "rises above
individuated awareness". In other words, we each construct our own universe
from the value(s) of which we are sensible. And, since value is derived
from a common source (Essence), the quantitative properties of existence are
the same for all.
IMO DQ is undefined in that it acknowledges an evolution
in existence of seven levels. That is not in revelation. God
is in revelation! Does God evolve? I surmise your answer
is NO! and your have the source for "essence". This is your
belief system. Why do you feel you can convince me
(a member of MOQ_discuss) that your belief is more real
than a DQ/SQ metaphysics?
I'm not sure I can convince you, but it doesn't stop me from trying. For
example, I might ask you if there is such a thing as unrealized Quality. If
not, then quality is an attribute of man's awareness rather than the essence
of reality.
Also, my understanding is that are four levels in the MoQ: Inorganic,
Organic, Social, and Intellectual. What are the extra three? And what do
they have to do with "revelation"? How you categorize existence matters
less to me than how you perceive it. Is existence your ultimate reality, or
is it derived from a primary source? If the appearance of existential
phenomena is experience, then isn't their apparent evolution a result of the
observer's temporal mode of experience?
Regards,
Ham
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