Hi Ian

Well us MOQers are meant to value the intellectual level.

DM


I have this post "starred" ... meaning to come back to it, I blogged
something about Deleuze some time ago, (and Guattari and .... the
other whatshisname ... "On Grammatology" foggie froggie.)

Dangerous to admit you find these PoMo's actually speak sense ;-)
Ian

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:31 PM, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Ham

Always glad to be of service.

Regards
David M

Greetings, David --


I'm indebted to you for referencing this source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deleuze

some interesting ideas of Deleuze about how experience
and concepts relate that MOQers might like to ponder. Deleuze puts
difference before identity, or could that be
DQ/flux over SQ?

How Deleuze's metaphysical concept of Difference may relate to Pirsig's
levels and patterns remains to be seen. But his theory offers new support for my ontogeny of differentiated existents. I was particularly struck by
Wiki's interpretation of this concept:

  Traditionally, difference is seen as derivative from identity:
  e.g., to say that "X is different from Y" assumes some X and Y
  with at least relatively stable identities.  To the contrary, Deleuze
  claims that all identities are effects of difference.  Identities are
  not logically or metaphysically prior to difference, Deleuze argues,
  "given that there exist differences of nature between things of
  the same genus."  That is, not only are no two things ever the
  same, the categories we use to identify individuals in the first
  place derive from differences.

Here's how The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy describes this French
academician's contribution to philosophy:

"Deleuze conceived of philosophy as the production of concepts, and he
characterized himself as a 'pure metaphysician.'  In his magnum opus
Difference and Repetition, he tries to develop a metaphysics adequate to
contemporary mathematics and science - a metaphysics in which the concept of
multiplicity replaces that of substance, event replaces essence and
virtuality replaces possibility."

Thanks for pointing us to this reference, Dave.  It puts a new slant on
the Beingness of Sartrean Existentialism. I shall have to explore Deleuze
more thoroughly.

Regards,
Ham


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