At 12:29 AM 9/25/2008, you wrote:

Marsha --


to expand a tiny bit...

Right from the dictionary:  Experience

5. Philosophy. the totality of the cognitions given by
perception; all that is perceived, understood, and
remembered.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/experience

Why is this a problem?  Why don't you accept experience as reality?

I DO accept experience as existential reality.  But that's not the point.

To say "experience is reality" doesn't tell us anything about experience or reality. It's like Pirsig's aphorism "some things are better than others", which doesn't tell us what morality is.

Your on-line "dictionary" is far too broad to be definitive. No. 2 comes closer to defining what we're discussing: " the process ... of personally observing, encountering, or undergoing something". Unfortunately, it's tied to "business experience" and raises questions as to whether the act of looking through a microscope is "observing" or participating in an economic recession is "undergoing something", thus qualifying as "personal experience".

Such lack of specificity makes our concept of experience fuzzy at best and subject to spurious interpretations. For example, is the reality of experience illusionary? Is experience the only reality? And who's experience are we talking about -- mine, yours, or "the totality of ...all that is perceived and remembered? How does experience differ from intellectual knowledge, or the accumulation of knowledge throughout all of human experience? (A library is full of such knowledge, but it isn't experience.) Don't you see the ambiguity here, and how it leads to models of reality constructed from loose assertions that have different meanings for different people? That's an exercise in folly, not philosophy.

I submit that there is nothing vague or ambiguous about being-aware. This definition encompasses sentience, perception, cognition, and apprehension in the "immediate" sense, avoiding misconceived allusions to intellect, conception, memory, or behavior. More significantly, it relates the individual subject (self) of experience to its objective content: Being. This affords an epistemological foundation for philosophical development, without limiting "reality" to existence or forcing either a phenomenalistic or a materialistic ontology.

Words and phrases may evoke emotional responses, but they add nothing to ontology unless they express a concept or proposition. The "problem" is one of communication and understanding. The distinction I'm trying to draw here is between descriptive prose and dialectic principles.

But you still haven't answered my question, Marsha. Can you accept "'being-aware" acceptable as a definition for experience?


No, Ham.   Experience creates subject and object.

Marsha


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