i see your point krim, perhaps explicit law is indispensable when organising larger groups. however i believe that we are drowning in rules, laws and regulations. a ledger of rights or basic ethical principles applied with the discretion of the community to each specific case would surely be a simpler, less labyrinthine and less expensive way of administering justice.
permaculture has three basic ethical principles: care of earth, care of people and share the surplus. individuals or organisations that transgress these directives could be held to account. i use permaculture's principles as an example. the emphasis on our stewardship of the environment is important. the profligate consumption of embodied energy (emergy) is no longer acceptable....it is now dangerously unsustainable. the transition towns initiative is pertinent here too. transition towns are those that are moving towards sustainability, organised at the municipal level. i think such grass roots action is the only effective way of transforming the larger economy away from a linear profit driven model. the higher levels of government suffer from an unwieldy level of bureaucracy and are beholden to large unsustainable corporate interests. i can see a future where individual non-profit community enterprises amalgamate to reduce costs and share resources/information/skills. this could eventually provide an alternative sustainable micro-economy which would provide higher quality goods and services (eg local organic produce, sustainable house design, hemp products, holistic health and education...) than the existing quantity (mass produced shit) driven economy. if my hypothesis holds fast - that such green micro-economies would be better than the existing models - then DQ, ie human preference, should drive the transition to a new green economy. i hope so anyway. cheers gav ps addendum: not-for-profit enterprises would still be driven, in part, by the incentive of making money. a successful enterprise would be able to pay its workers accordingly. i think we need some sort of limit in place though - say the best paid cannot earn more than five times the least paid for example. --- On Sun, 19/10/08, Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Krimel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] growth and sustainability > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Sunday, 19 October, 2008, 12:39 AM > [gav] > law vs lore....the aborigines can shed a lot of light on > this one. > > you know, the etymologies must be related i reckon - law > must have evolved > from lore - the static vine strangling the ineffable > dynamic source again. > > [Krimel] > Just to be annoying I thing science evolves from lore; > medicine and > agriculture from herbalism, astronomy form astrology... Law > is unnecessary > in the days of yore in the land of lore. In bands of 100 > are so everyone > knows everyone else. Ethics and morality are negotiated one > on one. You > don't need formal codes to mediate your interactions > with folks you know. > Laws arose with cities. When there are more people around > than names you can > remember that's when trouble starts. Formal codes help > reduce the > uncertainty we face when dealing with strangers. > > And just as a side note: Pattern recognition, negotiation > of meaning, memory > and language; the panoply of human superpowers are all > aimed at reducing > uncertainty. Since I think DQ is "uncertainty", I > think reducing DQ at one > level promotes new forms of DQ at higher levels. So I would > have to say that > creating and promoting Static Quality is a good thing. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
