> > > [Platt] > > > Always good to find common ground. As Reagan said a long time ago, > > > "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the > > > problem." > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > And that cynical formulation that We the People are our own worse > > > enemy is perhaps the most enduring evil of a legacy filled with > > > hypocrisy and lies. > > > > [Platt] > > You lefties unmercifully berated "We the People" for their stupidity in > > electing Reagan and Bush. Talk about hypocrisy and lies! > > > > [Krimel] > > Being disappointed in the gullibility of ones fellow citizens is a bit > > different than endorsing a web of lies and anti-American activity. > > > > > [Platt] > > > Unfortunately, like every other politician before or since, he > > > expanded the size of government. Today, Americans spend more on taxes > > > than on food, shelter and clothing combined. > > > > > > [Krimel] > > > It is particularly galling that Raygun made the quote above in > > > reference to the federal budget deficient. At the same time that he > > > preached against "tax and spend" liberals he practiced the "borrow and > > > spend" politics that have been the hallmark of "conservatives" ever > > > since. Thank God Almighty that they are at last falling apart and we > may > > > > at last be delivered from their pernicious bullshit. > > > > [Platt] > > No doubt the Republican party lost its bearings. We shall see in the > > coming months just how much we will thank the Messiah Almighty for > taking > > us further down the road to serfdom. We have been assured that He will > > increase already burdensome taxes to "spread the wealth,." the hallmark > of > > Marxism. > > > > [Krimel] > > Lost its bearings? It does now what it has always and consistently > done. > > It actively seeks to redistribute wealth into the hands of the very > rich. > > Your tacit acknowledgement of the upcoming landslide should serve as a > > beacon of hope for us all.
You mean a beacon leading to tyranny. > [Platt] > Rather, the Republicans have sought to allow people to keep what they earn > by reducing taxes across the board. They went astray on spending. As for > next week's election, the "gullibility" (as you put it but which your > fellow lefties called "stupidity") of one's fellow citizens is likely once > again to prove to be true. The beacon leads to despotism. > > [Krimel] > Earlier you said, "Today, Americans spend more on taxes than on food, > shelter and clothing combined." IF this is true, it is only true of the > poor > and the middle class. Yes, we know you love class warfare. But, the above is true taking into account all Americans, regardless of race, sex, income, ethnic background or religion -- as you lefties like to have it -- except of course when you're taking money from some to buy the votes of others. Of the rich it is assuredly NOT true. It is a > result > of the conservative distortions that make regressive taxes somehow sound > palatable to folks who think that someday they will be Carl Icahn or Ken > Lay > and they too will be able to suck at the tit of regressive policies. If > in > fact the rich paid their "fair" share of income taxes, the poor and > middle > classes wouldn't need to pay any at all. Some 40 percent of working Americans don't pay any income tax now. So what's your beef, other than envy? > As for "going astray" is that some euphemism for totally abandoning the > "principles" you claim are most central to your philosophy. Oh wait, you > have to have some principles to actually abandon them. Try the principle of individual liberty. I know. To you that's a foreign concept. > Despotism? Again the fear mongering conservative dictionary seems not to > have been written on Planet Earth. According to fear-mongering environmental wackos, we won't have to worry about having Planet Earth much longer if we don't all live in teepees and eat toadstools. Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
