Krimel:
Despotism? Again the fear mongering conservative dictionary seems not to
have been written on Planet Earth.

woods:
   It's called Obama's track record that I've posted here many 
times recently.  He's voted for Bush on restricting freedoms.  
Patriot Act, Wiretapping (oh, like that's not happening on non-terrorist 
like Bush promised, but it has been as the news has reported), he 
wants to expand the military even more, calls for a civilian national 
security force more well-funded than the military, calls to invade 
Pakistan, Syria is on the list currently as we've seen so Obama will 
have that, the World Banking System being discussed at the World 
Summits, next one coming up soon (possibly one world currency 
called for by Italian Prime Minister and French president), on and on, 
if you really think Obama's going to go in and just do as he pleases, 
yeah right...  

[Krimel]
You recent forays into investigative politics have been mildly entertaining
but sadly you seem way out of your depth. You grab this and that off the
internet with not real discernment as to what is good information and what
is dark fantasy. No one thinks anyone can go to Washington and do exactly
what they please. But the president can change and reshape the agenda. The
president can articulate a new vision for the country. A president with a
sizable majority in congress can take us off the path of self indulgent head
in the sand, tax breaks for Wall Street raiders and traders that we have had
for the past 30 years.

[woods]
If he can, without getting hurt, and nobody wants anybody 
to get hurt in this forum, but Obama's out of his league if he thinks 
he's going to change Washington.  He would need the backing of 
the people more than the people are willing to give at the moment.  It 
would take tremendous, daily support, but I'm sure the media won't 
let us in on what's really happening in Washington.

[Krimel]
If you think that no one can change Washington you are just wrong. Without
taking an extended trip down memory lane, Roosevelt and Reagan both did it
in alternating cycles of liberalism and conservatism that seem to last about
40 years. So thank God it is time for the pendulum to bring in a breath of
fresh air.

[woods
    I've posted enough on this subject and built a case against this 
two-party system and corrupt D.C. with the Banking system (Fed. 
Reserve, etc...), so I rest my case, it's in the archive, Krimel this 
is bigger than your little democratic party and Obama and it would 
take some really ground shaking events by anybody that goes 
into the white house and Obama's not it... so as Platt said 
we'll see....

[Krimel]
Do you seriously think I am the least bit inclined to search through the
archives for your posts that I filed away as unreadable in the first place?
You have been working yourself into a frenzy about issues you don't have a
grip on and don't even seem to know how to go about getting a grip on. Go
vote for some craziod third party nutcase. Vote for McCain. Do whatever you
want to do but for Christ sake calm down. The world is not coming to an end
here. It is just shifting shape. Again. But I suspect you will be as
befuddled by the new shape as by the old.




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