[Arlo]
Again I have to chuckle at the idea of a cadre of American sportsmen defeating
the US Military (I'm assuming your talking about the British Military being
complicit, because THEY have weapons, and yet it is the lack of civilian
weaponry that alarms you).
Does this mean you favor legalizing military-grade weaponry for the civilian
population? What about surface to air missile launchers, flame throwers and
bazookas. Wouldn't they be a whole lot more useful in a revolution than a few
pop-guns and muzzle loaders? Grenades? Anti-tank weapons? (We'd need them, for
sure, wouldn't we?)
woods:
Yes, we would Arlo. If a nation-state can be trusted to have them, why not
civilians? This is about people and morality.
Arlo:
But let me get to your main point, the storage and algorithmic reading of
emails for "terrorist" activity. Isn't that just what the Americans have been
clamoring FOR? Isn't that the direction the Patriot Act takes US? Civilian
wiretapping without a warrant, government review of bank activity deemed
"suspicious", tracing electronic activity and bank activity? All part of the
Patriot Act. Where are the Freedom Fighters to stand against this?? Hmm... if I
recall, when serious objection to the Patriot Act was brought before the
courts, these same Freedom Fighters branded those against the Patriot Act as...
well.. "not Patriots".
woods:
Bush and Obama support the Patriot Act and Unwarranted Wire Tapping. Obama
voted for it, Bush signed them into law. Freedom Fighters? Hamilton wanted a
centralized bank and Jefferson saw the tyranny. President Jackson fought off
the bankers in a heavy political battle. They kept creeping back, and now
this.
Freedom Fighters? What did you did against such bills? I wasn't fully
knowledgeable
about such Acts, but now I woke up. Sorry I joined the party late. You'll
have to
excuse the slackers...
Arlo:
This is precisely why I said to Andre that pretending the problem is all "those
damned and evil libs" is a greater problem than the censorship itself.
woods:
That's your fight. I'm focused on this censorship, but the more importantly
before
any of this will end is the Federal Reserve must go. That's the source of this
corruption.
I'm thinking the military is on the civilian side. They have families and
are
too smart to go after civilians, but I find this persistence of the Bush to
keep
the main military force in Iraq, against the needs of the Iraqis a bit
suspicious.
For the military would fight for the people if anything happened to us at this
point, but they are not here for the most part.
woods
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