[Arlo previously] What about surface to air missile launchers, flame throwers and bazookas. Wouldn't they be a whole lot more useful in a revolution than a few pop-guns and muzzle loaders? Grenades? Anti-tank weapons? (We'd need them, for sure, wouldn't we?)
[Woods] Yes, we would Arlo. If a nation-state can be trusted to have them, why not civilians? This is about people and morality. [Arlo] I think that's the first time I've heard someone come out in favor or allowing civilians to own high-grade military weapons. I'm not sure how safe I'd feel with some of the yahoos in my town being able to walk into BoxMart and buy a bazooka or surface to air missile launchers, and I can imagine the celebre at Pyromaniacs-R-Us when flame throwers become as easy to be as hunting rifles and handguns. (Do we stop there? What about allowing civilians access to larger missiles, say the kind that could wipe out a small town? We trust the military with them, why not civilians?) The military has a screening processes (ideally) about who gets in and who has access to what weaponry. Then, the weaponry is tightly regulated, locked, and soldiers go through much training in their use. [Woods] Bush and Obama support the Patriot Act and Unwarranted Wire Tapping. Obama voted for it, Bush signed them into law. [Arlo] And yet the Freedom Fighters only seem to be concerned about those darned libs. Did you know Platt argued in favor, in support and in defense of the Patriot Act? Its in the archives. And yet when you mention Britain, and his little "leftist kneejerk" can kick in, its an issue. This is the kind of gross hypocrisy I'm talking about. As for the election, well like I have said, it was either gonna be Obama or McCain, and the choice boiled down to which would be better. Not "best", sadly, as this country is just not at the point where a third party candidate is viable. I am not happy with Obama's support of the Patriot Act, but I was also outspoken of it when Bush signed it into law. And I will continue to be. [Woods] I'm thinking the military is on the civilian side. They have families and are too smart to go after civilians... [Arlo] If the military stands with the civilians against a corrupt regime, we have nothing to worry about. Our military is pretty strong. [Woods] ...but I find this persistence of the Bush to keep the main military force in Iraq, against the needs of the Iraqis a bit suspicious. For the military would fight for the people if anything happened to us at this point, but they are not here for the most part. [Arlo] I have full confidence that our brothers and sisters to the north would come to our aid... umm.... well.... check this out... http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
