Hi Andre, [Andre] > Apologies dear members of Discuss: > > After just having sent my reaction to Platt concerning praise for Bodvar, > I > realise that I have omitted to mention the most important thing of all: > be > aware that the MoQ places us also in a 'state of trance". In other words > the > MoQ is also a 'trance state'. > > 'The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. > The name that can be named [it] is not the eternal name. > The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth. > The named is the mother of ten thousand things.' > > I may be going off on my rockers now but suggest an interpretation of > this: > The first line refers to Quality... this fits (Undefinable). > Second line refers to DQ/SQ? > The third line refers to SQ? > The fourth line refers to DQ? > > This leads me to think that the MoQ is also a trance state. It is a > reflection/interpretation of Quality but not Quality itself.
Good point. The MOQ as a rigid interpretation of experience, like any other single-minded conceptual framework, would qualify as a trance state. But here's the thing about the MOQ. It says that reality is prior to conception and is therefore immediate, intuitive, undeliberate and involuntary. To me the word "trance" assumes a conceptual framework of some sort that filters direct experience. So in that way I would distinguish the MOQ from being a trance state, just as I would distinguish the mystic understanding of reality (ineffable) from the conventional one (symbolic) What do you think? Platt Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
