Without sufficiently similar university classes to what Adam's fans have, many of the references will just slide by and all that is left is stooge-like silliness. You are right. (but it won't take long reading these posts to get most of the philosophical 101 background)
thanks--mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "MarshaV" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Empiricism for dummies > > Ian, > > Okay, I did once listen to Hitch-Hiker's Guide... But for me it was > kind of like the Three Stooges, I wasn't thrilled. Maybe it's a guy > thing, maybe not. > > Your example does give me some idea. - Thanks. > > > Marsha > > > > > At 06:07 AM 1/21/2009, you wrote: > >Marsha, > > > >The Whale pops into existence above a planet, .... > >.... and experiences free fall in space ..... > >.... and then falling through the atmosphere ... > >.... and in that brief moment the whale's brain tries to make sense .... > >.... of falling and whooshing air .... > >.... not to mention the "object" below gradually filling up its field > >of vision ... > >.... starting with absolutley no prior experience or conception of > >these experiences. > >.... before .... Splattt !!! > > > >DNA - Douglas N Adams > >H2G2 - Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy > > > >The begonia has a similar (but different) experiences ;-) > > > >You get the idea. > >Ian > > > >On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ian, > > > > > > ???? Sorry, there's no familiar pattern there. Douglas Adams? Splatt? > > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 05:10 AM 1/21/2009, you wrote: > > >> > > >> BTW, > > >> When thinking of pre-conceptual experience, I don't think it's > > >> possible to beat the example of what enters the mind of Douglas Adams' > > >> Whale when it "pops into existence" for a few brief experience-filled > > >> moments. > > >> > > >> Splattt !!! > > >> > > >> FWIW > > >> Ian > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 9:12 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Greetings All, > > >> > > > >> > Sometimes I ask a question and it's like hitting the jackpot. This is > > >> > very > > >> > helpful. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Love you all, > > >> > Marsha > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > . > > >> > . > > >> > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a > > >> > reflection > > >> > of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end. > > >> > . > > >> > . > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > >> > Archives: > > >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > >> > > > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > >> Archives: > > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > . > > > . > > > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a > > reflection > > > of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end. > > > . > > > . > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list > >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >Archives: > >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > . > . > The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a > reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end. > . > . > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
