Now Ron says...


And this seems to sum up our differences of opinion Ham.
I am not a betting man. I prefer to draw conclusions from
experience.

To me, that wager is stacked. Metaphysics, especially your
own is the insistance of a collectivist view based on one
person's experience.  Before you go off on that statement,
YOU are insisting that your insights are correct and that
they are what's best for humanity.

Ron, I am defending my insights as the author of a metaphysical thesis. I am not "insisting" on anything, especially a "collectivist view".

Metaphysics is based on a collective universal belief about
experience, often those who do not share that same belief
being ridiculed, as you often do to those who disagree with
your view of that wager, in fact if I was God, I'd call that a
chicken-shit hedge all your bets move only a spineless timid
soul with no convictions would make.

It, to me expresses how little confidence you have in your
own beliefs.

You are sounding more like Arlo and DMB with each post, and your definition of metaphysics is sorely misinformed. There is no single "universal belief" called metaphysics, collective or unified. Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy that examines the nature of reality, including the relationship between mind and matter, substance and attribute, fact and value. It includes ontology (the nature of being), cosmology (the causes and dynamics of the universe), and epistemology (the acquisition of knowledge). Any philosophical theory that addresses these issues may be called metaphysical.

I've given you no reason (as Arlo would put it) to get your drawers in a tangle. I continue to participate in the MD because a few have expressed interest in the basic concepts of Essentialism and because I share their interest in value. Since you draw conclusions from experience (with the help of Pirsig), your beliefs lie elsewhere. Fine, we agree to disagree. Then why do you still find it necessary to attack me?

--Ham


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