At 06:53 PM 2/1/2009, you wrote:
> Marsha
> Greetings Micheal,
Hi :-)
> > > Marsha :
> > > Would it be acceptable to argue that the sun is in the center of the
> > > solar system with someone who believes the Earth to be in the center
> > > of the solar system? Yes.
> >
> >MP: Yes. A true statement, but I don't see that its applicable
to theism; where
> >you can objectively/mathematically disprove (as much as one's
acceptance of
> >reality permits) that the sun circles the earth, you can't do
that with the
> >existence of God.
>
> There is not a special category of knowledge that should remain
> untouched by inquiry, challenge and debate.
MP: Absolutely. I'm just saying that the (nb:
scientific/intellectual) inquiry,
challenge and debate you propose can only go so far up the theistic construct
chain because it is a specific (nb: scientific/intellectual)
language that becomes
more and more irrelevant the closer you get to the pure concept of
theism itself.
At some point prior to theism itself, science becomes irrelevant
*unless* it can
prove god(s) something about the existence of god(s).
For instance; scientific inquiry is relevant where theistic
manifestation lay claim
to a scientific field. Literal creationsim for instance. Or the
earth/sun orbit issue.
Totally open to scientific inquiry and challenge because it is a clearly
scientifically relevant topic. When discussing why the big bang occurred, the
field is less slanted to science, and it becomes equally valid for
theistic fields to
put science under similar scrutiny instead. When it comes to whether or not a
god or gods can exist, science is powerless. Its not a scientific field.
To put it simpler; theism is not really a "category of knowledge."
Its a belief
specifically *absent* knowledge.
Hi Michael
There is not a special category of knowledge and/or belief that
should remain untouched by inquiry, challenge and debate.
Marsha
.
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